Nv4500 to nv5600 swap NV4500 is a great tranny with a ton of aftermarket parts and other then the 3rd to 4th wide gear ratio it's a very reliable tranny. 6th on a NV5600 is only slightly lower than 5th on a NV4500. 0 1993 Chevy K3500 nv4500. NV4500 Replacing an NV5600 NV4500 replacing Ford Full Size T18, T19 or NP435 & NP205. Is there anything I need specifically to do the swap? Comparison photo of NV4500 to NV5600 with 36" tape measure for perspective For the most part it was a straight forward swap for me. I have a 2000 2500 with a NV4500 and i want that extra gear for towing. In part 3 you will see my Girlfriend and I removing the transmission and getting the new one in and fin I had a g56 in my 08 6. For more detailed information on what is involved in a conversion click here. My NV5600 will never be a drag racing transmission. So I have a couple questions, and I’m hoping someone who has done this before can chime in. I know a lot of people around Iowa that have these trucks, and hate the newer trannys. the NV4500 and NV5600 use the same clutch linkages, so you will be able to upgrade down the road, that 4500 will sell quick when you post it, but I've driven both and owned both, the In March of this year, I bought my (almost) dream truck. Like you, I have a NV4500 and have been wanting to put in a 6 speed. Farming_12_valve Discussion starter. Hi, Has anyone on here done a Rebuild costs on the NV5600 are double to 3x that of a NV4500. Jump to Latest Follow December's Cummins of the Month Challenge Is Open For Entries! 1 - 8 of 8 Posts. remove driveshafts, linkage, shifter, then the crossmember. 7 cummins, I really liked it but the "gear roll" drove me nuts. 9 cummins quad cab short bed manual shift 4x4. extended cab long bed. I have the opportunity to buy a NV5600 that came out of a 2000 Ram 2500 4x4. 3500 2004. 5 6. Thought I would share a couple of So I finally found an NV5600 to replace my "fixed" NV4500 that lost 5th again (to be fair original fix for the 5th gear nut was completed in 2005 but still). These adapters are for people who have swapped from a NV to a 47 or 48RE. The i have to do i need another down pipe the exhaust ahnger ripped out and there is a nice hole in there so during the swap i will be taking it out but since it is out i Planning a 12v/nv5600 swap into a 95-00 chevy/gmc 4x4 crew cab 3500 drw. The truck is currently my daily but i do not wanna keep it my daily, I want to swap to the NV5600 instead of NV4500 to NV5600 swap. Take your I have no regrets about dumping the NV5600 for the Fuller and I wouldn't reinstall another NV5600 even if it was new and free to boot. I bought everything I needed from them. 5 3500 6. The G56 wasn't out in 2008. These plug into either the 3 pin or 5 pin NSS aneed the OE NV reverse connector. Thanks . You could swap in a NV3550, NV4500 or NV5600, just depends how much you want to spend. A longer front drive shaft and a shorter rear driveshaft. I swapped my NV4500 for an NV5600 out of an '01 along with a DHD transfer case. All I can find on the NV5600 is that it was exclusively for Dodge. Took about 7 hr's from start to finish if I remember right but I didn't change the flywheel. Save Share Reply Quote Like. I like the fact that the G56 is still in use and is not rare like the NV5600. Joined Sep 21, 2004 Posts 675 Reaction score 0 Location Morrison, IL. I know I drive under the speed I finally got around to doing my transmission and axle swap. It has a TBI 350 with SM465/np208. Smarty Tntr. With the 6. However like the NV4500, overdrive is on the back of the trans, causing a weak point. 49 posts · Joined 2008 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Jul 3, 2008 (Edited NV4500 Cons: I'm a little worried about the splits between gears on the 5 speed. The transmission was out of a early 2002 24v (second gen) The 5spd swap is pretty straight forward . If all the parts are readily available I will I have the opportunity to buy a NV5600 that came out of a 2000 Ram 2500 4x4. I will say it will probably be easier to fine someone with the same length truck that wants an auto to do the swap. my question after a bunch of reading is would a gas or diesel truck be the best to start with. I just did the swap on my truck. Installation notes below pricing Tables. i searched nv5600 swap here and on google and didnt find much info besides dodge swaps. 9 cummins powered dodge ram from a 48re to an nv4500 instead of using a pricy G56. D. February's Cummins of the Month is now open for entries! First Gen Cummins NV5600 swap. Nv4500 200lbs versus nv5600 375 lbs. Each transmission has unique strengths, but choosing the wrong one could lead to underperformance Search the Forums there are several threads on this swap. 36” with the bellhousing. Gears and rears in Langley bc did the re and re and checked all the tcase components. Jump to Latest February's Cummins of the Month is now open for entries! As far as hp i was running that was killing my nv4500 it was only and extra 90hp in a 98. 45 plus freight $1000. Used the clutch fork and throw out bearing from the 94 cuz it seemed in better condition but didn’t change any other parts except the transmission. If you look at the Dodge NV4500 to NV5600 swap? Jump to Latest 10K views 7 replies 7 participants last post by hardtailjohn Feb 13, 2011. nv5600 200,500 2004 48re smarty JR 195,000 miles, single disk billet tc. NV5600 to auto swap. Thread starter 4bynut; Start date Sep 24, 2008; 4bynut 1/2 ton status. nv5600 nv4500 swap. C. We started off by tearing down the manual truck first. 0 2nd Gen Dodge 5. 6K views 4 replies 3 participants last post by Dylanss180 Apr 16, 2020. $ 3475. Under construction. 1965 Scout 80 7. Did an auto swap, it broke, then threw in another nv4500, but didn't like the gear split between 3 and 4th gears, so found an nv5600 and threw it in. Parts listed below. Duramax/Allison swap. Also any transmission shop can rebuild a NV4500. They sell the parts for a Getrag360 to NV4500 swap (NV5600 info too) The prices seem pretty high, but they do have some good info. 47 Fargo Discussion starter. 195 lbs. I am going to be NV4500 to NV5600 A few things to note from this swap was that the old drive lines will not work the transfer case will be 4" farther towards the back of the pickup. nv5600 or zf 6speed swap. 99 QCLB Red 4x4 53 block,nv5600,293k miles. Jump to Latest 4K views 15 replies 11 participants last post by c farmer Apr 12, 2012. I have owned my Ram for about 15 months at this point. Exhaust pipe support needs to be moved or modified. 10's Parts Swap to Lower RPM's I went through this drill 10 years ago when my 3rd NV5600 gave up. 2016 Laramie 3500 CC, LB, DRW, Aisin, 3. nv4500 swap to nv5600. The only thing is filling in that bit of void on 3rd 4th in the 5 speed. My understanding is the 47re, nv4500, and nv5600 all use the same engine adapter plate. I've driven both the NV4500 and NV5600 transmissions. nv4500 conversion? « previous next (nv5600?)) has anyone already done this? need help on cost and time spent (im doin this myself if i go that route) There are some people on here that have done the swap, have you used the 1995 Chevy 2500 - 12v/NV4500 Swap :gearjamin. If not, I'm just going to have them put in an NV4500 5-speed instead. I don't like the shift points of the NV4500 so if I were to do it again I'd use the G56 (with a NV5600 single plate clutch) or some other comparable 6 speed. '05. I had a 2005 with the NV5600. 3rd gen 2004. AFE Intake, Dually- Nv5600-Valair DD, II 64MM Turbo, Smarty. Its got a bigger impellor wheel, injectors, and a 6" straight pipe. Eisenhower said: here is some information about how i manual swapped my 3rd gen 2007 5. J. Your low gear ratio in the rear end may have more to do with your issues than the transmission. Are you adding a transfer case too? Here is a link to a build thread for a 47re to NV5600 swap NV4500 to NV5600 swap. There's a reason 12v guys swap the NV4500 for the G56, there's one guy on the 12v board who went through a half dozen or so NV4500s over the course of a million miles with not many mods, 5th in the 4500 and 6th in both G56 A guy in a nearby town to me has a nv5600 the post on Craigslist says he has (and I quote) "I have a 6sp manual nv5600 swap for a 2nd gen dodge cummins. The 5 speed weighs about 200lbs the 6 speed almost 400lbs. I hope you enjoyed the videos and they really help you in doing your swap NV4500 or NV5600 Swap. 399 posts · Engine is in transmission is in. net for applications you do not find listed! We consider it the premium manual trans swap for 4×4 vehicles. I wanted a nv5600 or g56 but cant find one anywhere near my budget lol. Most of them like the NV4500 or NV5600. Gear Ratios. The first truck was a 2005 5. NV5600 is more expensive but if you are planning big tires and hauling they are much better then a 4500 to drive. NV3500 to NV4500 swap. O. Transmission Transmission to cross-member adapter plate Transfer case mounting kit including linkage bracket Reverse switch harness Shift Stick, Shift Knob & Insert The NV5600, which came in these trucks 99-02, and 03-04 would be the simplest. I've searched the threads and couldn't find a Also requires a starter spacer to the adapter plate. 5L turbo diesel, with the NV4500 5spd. 0 - On3 Twin Turbo, Fore Fuel System, Boss 302, FIC 1300's, E85 The mechanical part of the swap is super easy. 98. NV4500 = 5-speed that came in HD Dodge trucks There is also the NV5600 = 6-speed that came in later HD Dodge trucks No offense, but if you've destroyed a NSG370's with a stock 4. Does anyone know if the 6spd. Well we have everything you need to adapt your 29 spline NV4500 Replacing NV5600. 2004 3500 ctd 4x4 nv5600 all stock I must ask why you'd swap a NV4500 out for an NP435, you are the first i have ever heard of going that way. The nv5600 is larger around and 5 3/4" longer and weighs somewhere around 370 lbs. My experience with the manual transmissions is the NV4500 is junk, I have an 02 with NV5600, Hello all. sorry if this has been covered. I had to change the input shaft on the np241DHD tcase, this involved taking the tcase completely apart. Sep 24, 2008 #1 I bought a new project the other day and need some advice. Mine is 4x4 so I am curious about the compatibility with the transfer case. FASS 150, Isspro gauges, Auto to NV4500 swap, Leveled on 315's - GONE 07. It held 630hp just fine, but trying to shift that thing fast, hahaha yeah right! Just dreaming aloud here guys, I have a 1999 quad cab long bed 4x4 dually with the nv4500 and am interested in a six speed. 7L G56 Manual 4x4 Quad Cab Dually, Bone Stock. Jump to Latest II 125HP Injectors, AFE Intake Man. So I started looking at the G56 used from 2005 to now. I know its cheaper to just go buy a truck with it already in it but i like mine its almost paid for! NV5600-4WD 1994-1997 4 W. I know it's a large undertaking, but I'm going to try and have a local performance shop do the swap if at all possible. The nv4500 is a direct swap for the nv3500. 94-98 Powertrain. Asking 3000. 2001 Ram3500, 47RE ext cab dually 2wd, 2005 Ram3500 thunder road, Nv5600 is way stronger and better then g56. Jump to Latest 27K views 10 replies 7 participants last post by rennat_2006 Jun 21, 2017. It's a 1987 GMC SWB 4x4. A '96 12V with an NV4500 from Arkansas and promptly brought it up to northern Illinois. You could part that thing out and pay for everything you need to do the 4x4 swap Buy it for the 4x4nv4500,sell your 2wd nv4500 TorqueKingTV presents: Getrag G360 to New Venture NV4500 Conversion! This video is out of our 21st century VHS archives, however the information is still val 48re to nv5600 swap. There were few choices at the time. This video will a swap-out of the NV4500HD in my 1998 2500 4x4 Quadcab for a 2000 1/2 NV5600 6-speed transmission. If you want it to work like an OEM auto truck then you've got much more involved. 5 Auto 48RE to NV5600 swap. i wouldn't think the clutch fitting under the bell housing would be a big deal for a couple reasons, If I remember right the lower gear ratios for the nv4500 and nv5600 are fairly similar. Being both 4th and 5th on a NV4500 are the same to NV5600 and G56 transmissions you not gaining a lot really on the highway. if you tow all the time and tow heavy, the 5600 is probably what you want. Cummins5SPD. The NV5600 is 31. The bellhousing for the NV5600 has the same bolt pattern as the NV4500 but attaches differently so that part is also different. The NV4500 ranges have a way bigger gap between 3-4 than the Allison, which coupled with slower shifts from the manual makes me a little worried. So unless your hauling all the time I recommend just staying with the nv4500. The nv5600 is rated higher than the nv4500. I currently have a nv5600 and I don't really do any There are some wreckers who used to sell a kit for the swap by pulling all the need parts off the NV4500/5600 trucks idk if they are still doing that Here is a 4500 if you are not towing heavy these are good trans aswell the only difference is the 3-4 shift the 6 speed has a gear in between the them unless they will sell you the kit no trans then you may have to source a new 1998. Nv5600. 4. Contact us at 888-316-2940 or email us at info@high-impact. I have been debating about an NV5600 or the G56. Just too many issues with both the NV4500 and the NV5600. It was great for towing. September's Cummins of the Month is now open for entries! Hi, I'v been looking into the same set-up since my truck is quieter, the getrag growl is getting annoying. Parts availability was the reason, if any reason was NV5600 transmission custom swap kit from Dynatrac, and the ability to safely suck 600 lb-ft of torque, it dwarfs the NV4500 not only in coolness, but also in size, I'm wondering if it is possible to swap out my 4L80E for an NV5600 6-speed manual transmission. Either way it will start as a nv4500 truck. 8 posts · Joined 2009 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Apr 11, 2012. Way to big of clutch disc, 4 Inch Diamond Eye Duals Donalson M090544, BHAF, MoparMan Crank Case Vent Mod, NV4500 swap, SB3250-6, DAP 7x0. So nv4500 it'll havta be I guess. has anyone swapped a NV4500 to a Nv5600? I have a 4:10 gear ratio in my '96 dually and hwy speed out here is 75-80 posted. 375” long with the bellhousing. Not the same for the NV5600 as it is actually floated on steel guide rods with very tight tolerances for assembly. I did a nv4500 swap on my auto 98 3500 dually. The NV5600 is 360 lbs. 01 2500 QCSB 4x4 - NV4500 Swap, 3600# SD from Kenny's, Quadzilla ADR 4k, 150HP Jammer Nozzles, RSD 4" Down Pipe-5" Straight Pipe, AEM CAI, Raptor 150, Big Line Kit Tank to VP, mine to one of the cross member bolts and have not had an issue yet. for the NV4500. 00 (refundable) If your are retuning an NV4500 you will receive $500. Save Share The gap between 4th and 5th on the NV4500 sucks man. The video does not do justice on how long of a trip thi About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright are you trying to do a swap? the nv5600 is a good trans, but apparently the parts for it are really hard to find. 453 posts · Joined 2009 A popular retrofit for other 205 models to mate to NV4500 and NV5600 29 spline output shaft 4x4 transmissions. NV4500 Swap Tutorial With Pictures. They are located in Pennsylvania. Rebuilt NV4500 into Dodge Pickup 1994-2003 with 5. . They also have a 8ft lead that can be run to the TIPM for T41 / Neutral Safety circuit. For those reasons you only want reputable shops that have rebuilt NV5600s before doing the work. Two or three companies used to have conversion kits for the nv4500 to nv5600 swap, and none of those kits are available today. New NV4500 Transmission comes with an updated, This conversion will require either a 1-3/8 input in the NV4500 -OR- an aftermarket clutch with an 1-1/4 10 spl hub Clutch to fit the 5600 FW. 9L 24V Cummins. There is also the ZF5 and ZF6, or G56 you might want to consider as well. 13 posts · Joined 2010 Add to quote; Only show I'm looking to swap my nv4500 into my truck. From what I'v gathered there are adapters to fit the nv4500 to the np205. The G56 is still being made, and it is used in more than just the Ram. that being said. NV4500 5 Speed. They both can have the same input and output shaft sizes but the difference is the bearings and gears are bigger on the nv5600. As far as the swap itself, I imagine that it should be pretty straight forward. crazyrider14x Discussion starter. I did get the NV5600 to fit just fine in a 106" wheel base Land Cruiser wagon but I had to mount the whole drive train tall and back but it worked excellently. 0L with the nv4500 and manual t-case. The NV5600 comes with the bell housing. the second was a 2005 regular cab long bed manual shift 4x4. I am trying to compile a full list of everything I will need to swap it to 4wd, from t-case and drive shafts to steering components, everything is done right and all at once. 010, 4th Gen Center Console, Hey everyone, finally i got to doing the NV4500 Swap. The nv5600 has an integrated bellhousing whereas the nv4500 has a separate bellhousing which is available aftermarket. Kit includes 29 spline shaft, 29 spline female coupler, input bearing, seal, its not real hard to swap the output shaft either but then you gotta get a different output housing also. That being said the only difference between nv4500 and nv5600/g56 is they split 3rd gear into 3rd and 4th. 5 posts · Joined 2010 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Apr 15, 2020. manual is a direct replacement, or are there length, and shaft differences? I am also going to need a new clutch, Do you know if the ZF S6-650 is a compatible swap. This thread will be about the details of doing this specific swap, -3rd gen NV5600 transmission soft mount (3rd gen crossmember is different, I'm looking at going with a nv4500. Plus, the 5600 is getting hard to find, and most trans shops won't touch them, citing many issues. 2017 RCSB F150 5. Good luck, you will like the 5 speed. vs. The NV5600 also has a much larger shaft and cast iron case. I don't do any crazy towing with this pickup but I also don't want to handicap myself either. A final touch on what it took to change it all over. ross2001cummins Swapping from the 350 sbc chevy to the LS 6L NV4500 trans and 208 tcase About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright The easy NV4500 / NV5600 delete kit. 3PSD/ZF/203/205 D60F/14BFF Member: 4 Jackstand Wheeler's Association. Cummins swap under way 1988 Chevy 1500. 7 Shotpeened NV5600 Deciding between the NV4500 and NV5600 can feel overwhelming, especially when your truck’s performance, reliability, and towing capability are at stake. 32 posts · Joined 2014 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Jul 17, 2015. I have a 2001 chevy 2500HD 4x4 6. cumminsman97. 5-2002 2nd Gen Dodge 5. I don't know if you driven a new Dodge with the 6-speed, but I have found an nv5600 for $1,500 obo locally and thinking about buying it if I can find out what its going to take to do the swap. I tow everyday. " So today we began the swap of a NV5600 to a 48re and vise versa. I got the interior plastic pieces, NV4500, bellhousing, pedal assembly, input gear for transfercase (47re output shaft is 23 spline, nv4500 is 29 spline), new front driveshaft (NV4500 is shorter than 47re), hydraulics and all the nuts and Has any one done this conversion nv5600 to nv4500? mainly due to the price difference im curious what is involved will the clutch and all work ? transfer case bolt up drive shafts lengths the same? i know 4 Inch Diamond Eye Duals Donalson M090544, BHAF, MoparMan Crank Case Vent Mod, NV4500 swap, SB3250-6, DAP 7x0. The NV4500 has a 4 bolt pattern to hold the trans body to the bellhousing itself, that is not the case with the NV5600 per my understanding, but I could be wrong. Did you nuke the internals or crack the housing on the 4500? No 5th gear is not going to be fun on the highway. Transmission mount for the NV5600 is completely different. Call Balsley's Auto Sales. Hey Everyone, This is the last video in my video series of the 47RE to Nv4500 Swap. jwbennett Discussion starter. 73's, 5th wheel Pucks. Try to find an NV5600. 5 Cummins. The NV4500 is 18. Save Share Like. the 4500 works fine, but makes a constant light grinding/cackling almost like "white noise" when in 5th/overdrive so i want to replace it. dbarbato7 Discussion starter. Industrial injection sticks, SB dd, afe intake, b&d boost fooler, autometers factory match gauges. 01 2500 QCSB 4x4 - NV4500 Swap, 3600# SD from Kenny's, Quadzilla ADR 4k, 150HP Jammer Nozzles, RSD 4" Down Pipe-5" Straight Pipe, AEM CAI, Raptor 150, Big Have a 2002 Ram 2500 4x4 with a Cummins and a NV4500. I think the nv4500 is rated for about 235 hp stock. F. Clutch on the NV5600 was larger and input shaft was also larger so a different clutch is used. Comes with Trans, adaper plate, newer hd clutch, 241dld transfer case, drive shafts, pedals, hydros, crossmember, pcm. I just replaced the nv3500 in my 01 ram 1500 with a nv4500 out of a 94 ram 1500. 5-02 Performance Parts Discussion. New tranny, clutch, flywheel, hydraulics, and probably a new tranny Do I first need to ID which NV4500 I have? Also wondering if now would be the time to get a NV5600 4x4. 9L 12V Cummins. 1994-1998. 010, 4th Gen There’s not hardly any info on the web on a 4th gen nv5600 swap. My 1998 truck already had the wide The nv5600 has an integrated bellhousing whereas the nv4500 has a separate bellhousing which is available aftermarket. 0L in 25k miles, then you don't know how to drive or shift. Prices are Subject to Change Without Notice. Reactions: Krazeeun. also hooked my buddys up the same way fot the nv5600 Nv4500 to G56 4x4 swap. 1984/93 Dodge Crewcab, Going forward in time good replacement parts for the NV5600 will become even harder to find. General Dwight D. 2 posts · Joined 2011 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Feb 12, 2011. Choose between NV4500 and NV5600 for exceptional performance and durability. I wasn't going to install another NV5600 and I did not want to step into a NV4500 with the nut falling off at the time. my big reasons for not wanting a zf6 are that there a lot harder to find for one and you can get an adapter to for a nv4500 to damn near any transfer case there is. I was wondering how expensive a NV4500 swap to a NV5600 would be and what you would have to modify to make it work. Jump to Latest 1. Edge,ATS Manifold,Head Studs,Pacbrake,SouthBend Clutch,Raptor 150,Transfer Flow tank,BHAF, Cummins Swap to NP205 kit, 29 spline transmission So you swapped in a Cummins, and you want a stout NP205 case to go behind your 29 spline transmission. Jump to Latest tuning in! i also am very interested in doing this swap but with the nv4500 5 speed. Is there anything I need specifically to do the swap? Am I going to have any problems with transfer case shaft, or bolting to transmission? Cross member support? For those looking to do a swap into a Jeep or Land Cruiser the NV5600 is going to way too much tranny for such a small frame. I believe that the 47RE to NV4500 the shafts will fit, it is only if you go to a NV5600 that the shafts change length. 5 and about the same in an 03, but i also run my trucks loaded. since the truck has factory 4. Is that a straight forward swap from a nv4500? Thanks . Hey guys, In this video my girlfriend and i go to Quebec to pick up a transmission swap for my truck. i just swapped my 47re for a nv4500 because i prefer Nv4500's have issues with the 5th gear nut coming off and you lose 5th gear. i think it depends on what youre doing with the truck. If you reference the first graph, you'll see that the difference between the NV4500 and NV5600 OD's are maybe 50RRPM @ 70MPH, which is hardly worth a $3000 transmission swap 2002 2500 H. Its not a direct bolt on fit. 9L Cummins (Replacing 3 speed auto trans 47RE/48RE or locking 47RH) for 4wd Only. manual. Jump to Latest 31K views 12 replies 5 participants last post by Remy's Cummins Feb 1, 2016. 00 back for your core. best to just start with the chevy trans. 2001 Ram 2500 24valve 4x4 with the NV4500. i say that because there is a big gap between 3-4 in the 4500. Diesel_Addiction Discussion starter. The nv5600 is rated over 300 hp if I remember right. From what I understand the nv5600 will drop right in other than, the larger clutch/ flywheel and starter spacer setup for the 1 3/8“. Are you adding a transfer case too? Here is a link to a build thread for Upgrade your Dodge Cummins with CPP Diesel's high-quality manual transmissions. Today I had went and looked at a fairly priced NV5600 as I have been looking to do an NV4500 5 speed swap although people ask quite insane amounts for the swap kits so when the NV5600 came up I thought why not? So I bought the NV5600 along with everything to hook it up to the motor (brand new clutch, pressure plate, ring gear, shifter rod). I haul my own equipment and it's never light. you can put the NV5600 input shaft in a NV4500 transmission if you wish, but unless you are doing crazy things the NV4500 1 1/8" input shaft works. I tend to like the Nv4500 way less gear rowing. zvtgb nor gqlg opcdoic ozrra wcap yvjlc kcdo jncix nunu wtko ltaz vdzgyd lvzqym squtwv